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#121 AndrewC

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Posted 07 August 2009 - 03:52 PM

No worries, Tuesday ok?


Tuesday will be fine.

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#122 Dont_tell_him_pike

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Posted 07 August 2009 - 04:33 PM

Great.

Anyway, Argh! The actuator was set to 0.3 bar when I picked up the car, have just set it back to about 0.6 and boost seems to be escaping somewhere, it reaches 0.5 then becomes very shaky, hovering around 0.5. It also made some odd sounds, frankly it sounded like pressurised air escaping. Sometimes it gets to 0.6 and stays smooth, at one point in 3rd gear it seemed to shudder up to about 3500 revs then it found 0.6 and evened out.

Only thing is, it seemed to sometimes do this when it still had the tmic, generally only occaisionally in high gears, which I'd put down to a severely cracked wastegate, but I've got a different turbo on now. he did reckon there was a lot of shaft play ("that's fucked" as he put it) in the turbo that's gone on, but nonetheless obviously thought it was the better of the two.
Looks like I'm going to have to take it back to them
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#123 Dont_tell_him_pike

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Posted 07 August 2009 - 04:54 PM

Ok now I'm worried, The turbo would seem to be burning oil. Or rather, I bloody hope that smoke is coming from the turbo...
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#124 Lindsey

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Posted 07 August 2009 - 07:36 PM

Ok now I'm worried, The turbo would seem to be burning oil. Or rather, I bloody hope that smoke is coming from the turbo...

if your burning oil this is not a good sign in a turbo, your oil seals are on the way out check your oil level you will consume a lot of oil, had the seals go on a volvo once had to keep stopping to top the oil up just to get home, smoke was not so bad at first but got progressively worse.
time for a new turbo or get the one you have rebuilt with new seals bearings etc.
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Posted 08 August 2009 - 06:55 PM

Aye cheers, I was thinking twice about going to norwich, but today turned the actuator back down to about 0.4, no smoke and no juddering. So I think I'll have to just put up with low boost for a while, which is pretty much like a standard Sera.
It wasn't all good today though - I went to have a slow puncture sorted and they said it's unfixable. It is at least very slow, so in the meantime I'll keep inflating the tyre until I've got the cash to replace it...
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#126 Dont_tell_him_pike

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Posted 09 August 2009 - 03:04 PM

Well, thought I'd try tightening up the jubilee clips on the intercooler piping, see if that helped. Was kinda wary of doing this, I worry if I did it too much it'd cause the piping to distort or cause a hose to shear, so just did it a bit, turned the actuator up a bit, to about just under 0.6bar, and at first it seemed fine, but then once I got to an open road the juddering returned, first just in 4th and 5th, but got gradually worse, and once I'd gotten home the smoke had returned. Sigh...
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The Blue Sera 1.5 turbo - RIP

#127 AndrewC

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Posted 11 August 2009 - 02:40 PM

Best not to drive hard until you get it sorted out. Turbos can be resealed and have new bearings fairly cheaply but if there is any component damage then that starts getting more expensive.

I have a spare turbo to downpipe gasket if you need one - p/n 17279-11010 New and unusued.

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#128 Dont_tell_him_pike

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Posted 11 August 2009 - 05:33 PM

Really? The guy who did the intercooler said it'd be very expensive to do the seals, more expensive than a new turbo in fact. I said I'd take it down to get the old, badly cracked turbo put back on, as at least it didn't smoke.
A search of google and the yellow pages for turbo specialists was pretty fruitless, do you know any companies that would be able to do it? Ideally locally...

Cheers for the offer on the gasket, if the cracked turbo goes on it'll need to eventually come off again, so I'll pick it up when I'm down. or, if I can get the smokey one rebuilt I'll contact you about posting it.

Think I may have figured out the juddering - someone suggested it might be ht leads or spark plugs, which I thought unlikely seeing as they're both uprated and quite new, but I checked them anyway and the first and second, erm, plug holes (?) are showing quite a bit of muck and corrosion, as are the tops of the plugs, presumably thanks to the bonnet. I have no means to remove the spark plugs myself so I'll get the garage to give them a clean.
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#129 Impressive G

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Posted 12 August 2009 - 08:13 AM

A local to me turbo specialist quoted me 400 about 18 months ago to have it hybridised...Thats totally reconditioned too...Far less than any 'BRAND NEW' turbo from Toyota for a CT9

Have a look for turbo specialists in your area too, I'd imagine there should be some in Sheffield.

If not ill try and find the number of the one I talked to in Bamber Bridge.
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Posted 12 August 2009 - 08:54 AM

Turbo Technics Northampton?

I know TB Turbos in Lancaster have closed recently.

http://www.melett.co.../Toyota-ct9.pdf

http://www.crturbos.co.uk/cat_12.htm

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#131 Dont_tell_him_pike

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Posted 14 August 2009 - 05:28 PM

Well, the juddering seems to be fixed - plugs 1 and 2 had a lot of grey/white corrosion on them, plug 1 was also loose.

The smoking would seemed to have improved a lot all by itsself, i wonder if high boost caused quite a lot of oil to seep into it, which has largely burned off since i turned it down to 0.5. They didn't swap the turbo over because they reckon the other one is close to disintegrating. It does apparently blow a bit of smoke under boost, but it doesn't smoke when stationary any more.
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The Blue Sera 1.5 turbo - RIP

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Posted 15 August 2009 - 07:33 AM

Good news that. Mine juddered under high load of the right foot in higher gears when I first had it done, turned out to be the HT leads...
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#133 Lindsey

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Posted 15 August 2009 - 08:17 AM

just keep an eye on oil consumption as the oils seals are wearing,
you could try a slightly thicker oil in the mean time,
do you have an oilcooler fitted if not consider it to try to keep the oil temp down.
when you have time you could get the other turbo reconditioned and then fit that that will cure the problem once and for all.
"Understeer" is when you hit the fence with the front of the car. "Oversteer" is when you hit the fence with the rear of the car. "Horsepower" is how fast you hit the fence. "Torque" is how far you take the fence with you

#134 Dont_tell_him_pike

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Posted 15 August 2009 - 01:24 PM

Can a cracked wastegate be repaired? I'd kinda assumed the other turbo was a write off.

There are a few people on tgtt selling ct9s with no cracks or shaft play, but the intercooler guy reckons when a turbo has been off a car for a whilethe seals stick to the shaft and get pulled loose when it runs. however my cracked ct9 was in a box for at least 9 months and was fine. I suspect this one has been in a box for a bit longer.

Given it only smokes when boosting, I think if I further reduce the boost so it's basically back to n/a I shouldn't have any problems getting to Norwich and back, plus the fact the hole in the bonnet is now known to be damaging the engine gives it more urgency...
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The Blue Sera 1.5 turbo - RIP

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Posted 17 August 2009 - 02:02 PM

Waaaaaiiiit one cotton picking minute, I've just remembered I've got another bonnet! The old crash damaged one, needed the delicate attention of a block of wood and a big mallet to get it straight enough to go back on, but hey presto:
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Andrew - my parents are going to Croydon on Thursday, and I think I've convinced my dad to go down with the mad max bonnet in the back and come home with mine (he moaned and sighed a lot and said something about I should've bought a three year old clio or something), Assuming someone's gonna be there to recieve it. Thanks...
Confucius say, "He who uses a duck umberella as a bonnet prop shall, in time, inevitably feel the wrath of his bonnet"

The Red Sera 1.5 turbo
The Blue Sera 1.5 turbo - RIP



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